Chinese spying- rest assured?- government takes these matters very, very seriously?

Mr. Kevin Sorenson: Thank you for being here this evening.


You talked about the resources and the increase in resources especially in personnel. Can you tell me what the levels of personnel were in the early 1990s?
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Mr. Keith Coulter: It was pretty static there.
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Ms. Barbara Gibbons: It was pretty static. In the early 1990s--and I'm going on recollection now because I don't actually have those figures--we were just under 900 or so in size.
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Mr. Kevin Sorenson: We know that CSIS, for example, had somewhere between 2,800 and 2,900, and it was cut back to 1,800. The RCMP, in the mid-1990s, lost 2,200 positions. Did CSE have cuts then?
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Ms. Barbara Gibbons: No, we were not affected by program review. We were not cut.
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Mr. Kevin Sorenson: Maybe there were no cuts, but was there a freeze on hiring?
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Mr. Keith Coulter: There was no growth in the budget; therefore, it was a very static population in terms of numbers. I should say that I started five weeks before 9/11, so my whole experience is this growth scenario.

Looks like that $10 billion for security was more smoke and mirrors since the RCMP and CSIS are still severely undermanned.How can they take these matters seriously when it comes to protecting Canadians when the basics haven't been done in 10 years?